Author of the bestseller The Chalice and the Blade, Riane Eisler talks with Betsy about internalizing true quality of life factors (child-rearing, health of habitat, and other common-sense things) into a new Economics for the 21st Century, and the how fleeing the Holocaust and growing up in Havana instilled in her a lifelong commitment to the politics of caregiving, and in turn a commitment to deconstructing the limited use of current models, capitalist and socialist, that limit our ability to sustain ourselves. It’s all in her new book, The Real Wealth of Nations. LISTEN (12 min)